Killing Them Softly with Max Fine

The hilarious Max Fine joins the pod to talk about the underrated Brad Pitt movie, "Killing Them Softly." Released in 2012, critics and audiences expected a Scorcese-esque crime thriller and instead got a 90 minute economic crisis allegory. It wasn't received well. Idiots! This movie is great!

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to we're gonna change the name because I hate the name of you pick the movie. I think it's a horrible title.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

Remember when you changed your name on stage?

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Yeah, that was horrible too. I know. What are you going after me for you for?

SPEAKER_03 0:14

Um you have though? Because that's all I've ever seen. Yeah, dude. The Taylor Japanese.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Those are nice. Those are dungarees. You don't call them pants. You call them dongarees.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

This happened actually when I was coming through customs, I was wearing these on the way back. Smart. Yeah, wigged smart. These are on these, you're gonna see me the I'm gonna be like Levi with these.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

And you left before the TSA, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

Yeah, yeah. You fucking brilliant. So anyway, when I got back, I had to go through customs, and you have to go through TSA again. Right. And I was wearing these, and I got pulled out through security. Yeah, yeah. And the and the the guy he was like patting me down, he was like going down the whole leg and everything, and he said, You know what it is? Your denim's too thick.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

Shut up, you're like, that's not the only thing that's like if you're goddamn right.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Did you say that? What did you say?

SPEAKER_02 1:02

I was like, he was like, all right, dude. Welcome to see it all. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

How long was so Max went to Japan?

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Yeah. How long did you go for? Uh I was in there for a little over two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

15 days.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Was that enough?

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Yeah. It was the perfect amount. I had so much fun, and then I was I was you're ready. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Right, right, right. Now, once you get there, it's a pretty cheap salad.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Yeah. Yeah. Um it's on real. I mean, it the yes.

unknown 1:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

Like the free. Yeah. I mean, you also, I was very bad at understanding what like how much because everything's in yen.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

And you're you're just losing, you're like, they're like, it's like a thousand yen. You're like, what is it? Yeah, that and they're like two dollars. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Like, you know, like you're like for real. That's crazy. But did you see a lot of drunk people passed out on the on the on the ground? They do that a lot. And put bottled water next to them.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

No, I didn't see I saw some, but not like a ton. My favorite thing I ever saw was a these two Japanese like businessmen just hammered. Yeah. And then they were like kind of like like you know, pushing each other. And then they parted ways and they both full bowed.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

They both full bowed. Full.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Dude, I want to just go bow. I bow. I still bow. My buddy used to make fun of me when we go to an Asian restaurant. I'd be like, thank you. Like I'd do it. Stop doing it. I can't help it.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

I can't help it. I can't help it, dude.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Yeah, a lot of no. Oh, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

A lot of bows. I'd be bowing it up from.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

But that I was like, we gotta steal that as America. That was fun. That was the most fun.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Dude, I'm I'm totally going through a Japanese-Chinese thing. Like I used to be when I was younger. Now I'm like, I'm I think as I'm getting older and I'm like, I want like a quality of life. And over there, dude, I follow this Japanese grandpa. Oh, he does, he's 90 years old, and all he does is draw frogs. And I'm like, and make origami frogs. And I'm like, I want to be this guy. That's a beautiful life. That is a beautiful life. He's drawing frogs and origami frogs. And then he gets and they're working out. Like they stay still. Like they're very active. Oh, yeah. They're fucking, they're great. I fuck with the Asians, dude. That's why I have a joke right now. I'm like, if the Chinese come, fucking bring it on, dude. Chee she. I don't care. I eat chopsticks. I like chopsticks. I use them all the time.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Dude, I I ordered, I went to some baseball games.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

And speaking of chops, I ordered nachos and they handed me and they handed me chopsticks. I was like, man. That's so cute. He's like, you believe in me. All right.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

That's so cute. Well, I mean, I guess if you have one chip and you have to put shit on top of it, do it, do it. I think chopsticks and spoons. I did like what more do you need?

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Dude, I will are you I'm not I can use the chops. I definitely do them wrong. Are you good with them?

SPEAKER_01 3:29

You're from San Francisco. You should be fucking better at this.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Oh, I know. I have no, I have no, like, I, you know, but I I could do them, but I don't do it right.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

With noodles, it's easier because you just grab that shit and you shovel.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

I mean noodles, yeah. Rice, I can't rough. Well, rice, you gotta get the top part. You know, like it's like a snow cone?

unknown 3:51

Hey!

SPEAKER_02 3:54

You know when it's like the bowl on the top part? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

The eyes are small.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I'm just saying, you came back with new jeans and squintier eyes. It's weird. I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

There it is, kids. There it is. Low-hanging fruit leave.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Um how many pairs of those do you have, though? These? Three. That's it?

SPEAKER_00 4:14

I've seen them for four years every day.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Only three? Well, you know, I buy new. Okay. Okay. I got a I got a I got a blue pair. They're a little tight though.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Those are real loose.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Somebody tells me it's like a blackish blue, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 4:33

What is there anything you're craving here that you had in Japan that you're like, oh, I wish we had that here?

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Yeah, the chicken katsu. Like the chicken katsu was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

In the East Village, dude, it's fucking China. It's like it there's katsu places all over the place.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Yeah, really? Yeah. I've not done it. I'm I mean, also I'll say this. Like, it was like they give you like miso soup. Right. Rice, like vegetables, chicken. It's like it's like nine bucks.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

I don't like miso soup. You don't like miso soup? I just I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

It's a n I like it. I I think it's a nice just it's like an acquired taste.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

Really? Maybe I just haven't had it good. Every time I have it, it's so wicked salty.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Over I mean, over there it's delicious. I don't know. I just it's just it's just being paste or something. It's just it's a nice thing they throw on. There's a lot of like here you go.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

No, the the culinary world of chip chip Chinese and Japanese are just the Asians, they kill it. Like how I mean, finding kimchi, like how many people had to die to make that shit? It's I mean, it's probably you know, because of struggle, and you know, they had to like you know hide in the woods because you know, Genghis was probably around or something, so they had to live off of twigs and shit. So it's like, you know, that's how we got kimchi and that's how we got kimchi.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

That's how we try to invented twigs. History with leaven.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

And that's why they think I mean Genghis invented kimchi.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

I had I ate horse for the first time. I ate horse. Raw horse, dude. It was sushi. Oh Lord, it was it was really good. It tasted kind of like beef. I thought it was good. It was like four little games. No, it wasn't gamey. Not not how they do it in Japan. It was flavorful.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Was it? It was good. I like it. Sushi was on point.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

Sushi was unreal. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe it.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

Like so fresh, probably that you're like so good. It was so Did you go to any fishing markets? Because I want to look at the they have weird shit in those.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

But it's so, it's so touristy. Like it's so too. Oh yeah, I can't do that. I can't do it.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Like, especially, did you see Australians there? They're the fucking worst. They're like the West Virginia of the world.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

What is that mid-west Virginia?

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yeah, it just is.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Well, that was actually those were that was those became my best friends. I traveled around with an Australian plumber. Yeah, they're usually fun. They're so much fun. They're also, yeah, because they were they're they drink, they party. Yeah, and they're way more outgoing than Americans, I think.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

And then the other thing that And they're used to more traveling more. They're traveling travel a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

The other thing I noticed for real is everyone was like, oh, you're gonna go make a bunch of friends with like Japanese people. That that language gap is real. Like it's not like it wasn't like like you could not I could not communicate.

SPEAKER_03 7:14

They're not fucking around and trying, like, they're not learning English for a tourist or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Yeah, but they're cute though. They'll be like, they'll they'll talk to you their language and they're like, ah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, you're like, you're like, yeah, and like it's yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

I mean, the amount of time I mean I got into I mean, for a while I was going into like uh like when you go and get clothes, like you go into the changing room, and I was wearing my shoes in there the whole time, and then you go out and you're you're like no, no, no. And I was in like first class. I'd walk barefoot in a Tokyo you probably could. I mean, you know what's crazy? I saw one piece of dog poop in two weeks there. It was the most I didn't see any trash. I wish uh I saw one guy throw out a cigarette, literally one dude, and I was like, that's a bad boy. Like like bad boy. It was like that place was so. It was clean. That's so funny. And then I did comedy in Tokyo in Osaka. Yeah, and not one Japanese person was there. It was all European. Yeah, it was like bad. It was like a show at Broadway. I kept telling, you know, it was there's like a Osaka.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

I remember that Osaka ripped. Yeah, that's north, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Uh no. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

I think it's Sapporo. Yeah, Sapporo. Yeah, sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Uh Osaka Sappa. Uh South. Okay. Um Osaka ripped. I mean, it was it was just also because I had like one, I went to a sumo tournament there, which was so much.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

I so want to go to that, dude.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

So much fun.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Did you get hammered over there?

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Uh yes, not at the tournament that day, but yeah, I got hammered. I get hammered in Japan.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

I've seen those sumo, like as I say, I'm following all this Japan. Also, I I follow a lot of like little Japanese Chinese kids because they're so cute. Sure. They're so adorable.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Like I'm a chick. I'm a chick.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

I can't see cute children there? Yeah, dude. Actually, I saw I I one, I was working out in a park, and this little this little this little Japanese boy came up and handed me like a stone, and I bowed to him.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

That is so cute.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

What did he say?

SPEAKER_01 9:09

What do you say to you? Did you see any kids walking by themselves? Because they're big into that culturally. Like kids will go to the grocery store.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

They dress so much better than us. Like now, and the the kids have like these full, like little kids have like these suits and like the matching back. And yeah, I saw little kids just scam around. Yeah, dude, they're safe as heck. It's safe as soon as it's.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Yeah, like they just had, I think there was either a pedophile situation where they got like he like public hanging. Like they just they they don't fuck around over there. Yeah, no, no, no. We need what they do. Like they, they like, for real, they clean house, dude. They don't allow it at all. Because there's little kids, like, there's like when they've turned five or something, part of their like they they the parents give them money and they go to the store to pick up something. Oh, really? And they just go, they they travel. So you see little kids and they're just all like walking around like going to the store. It's insane.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

I mean, I and I mean this for sure. I across the board, not one time in 15 days. And I was out drunk and early, and all not one time that I feel remotely unsafe, even kind of my best friend who's tall like you, he's a white guy.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

He said it was um it was one of the coolest experiences of all. And he's like, the best part about it is like you are an outsider. But it's not like but you're not like an outsider where you're like you have to sick in the corner and you feel uncomfortable. It's kind of like they they're not like it's so interesting how they're like they're very pre like they are who they are, but they're all like, okay, I come like because he only let probably people in over like 30 years ago or 40 years ago. Like they Japanese were always like stay away. Yeah, which I get. Like, I totally get it. They've set up a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

They did set up a good thing, and that's I think also the thing where it is like there's like that language thing is real. Like they're not like we're they're not like we're gonna learn English for you.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

No, right. Well, especially if you do like my buddy went over there for business, he had to learn the business customs for over there. Because there's a whole world of business business customs. Like part of hanging out with your boss is getting drunk over there. Oh, yeah. That is part of the culture, dude.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

I I mean I was yeah everybody's drinking. Because also the other stuff, like there's not people like smoking weed up.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Like, that's like weed. That's the only bummer thing. There's not the uh I need to have weed. I would love to eat an edible and go to a Buddhist temple. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I would be freaking out. I would be freaking out. And those also, by the way, everywhere. Like there's temples, yeah. Like there's little, like, oh, like just like down an alley, there's just a shrine. Oh, yeah. The funny thing is also I didn't know how to properly like you know, pray. So I just was doing a lot of like I was just doing a lot of respectful head nods. I'd like I literally would like treat it like our national anthem, like I would take off my cap.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Oh my god, dude, you fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

And like just kind of hammered in a corner. Like that's so great. Whatever this is, I hope it works out. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Good for you. I'm jealous. I can't wait to do that. I really I I want to like sell everything and just go over there and just explore forever. Because I want to go North Japan and South. I want to do it all. Did you go north?

unknown 11:56

No.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Only I know. I mean, only so many days. You know, you gotta. But I went, I went south. I went I went hiking like around Hiroshima. It was awesome. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Around Hiroshima?

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

No shit. That's awesome. What's that town like, dude?

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Like really a trip. Like it's just, it's like it's like a ma you're like, this is a major, major city. And you, you know, I went to the museum and you're like, oh, literally none of this was here, what, 80 years ago? Like and like just skyscraper.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

That's crazy. See, because um I don't know, I think I saw something where I think the original bomb was supposed to go to Osaka, but they were like, no, because it's the cultural, like, it's a it's a cultural haven. Osaka, like Osaka's one of the most respected to Japan. So they didn't want to fuck with that. So they were like, all right, we'll go to Hiroshima.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Yeah, there was a they had a bunch, they showed it at the museum. There was like they looked at Kyoto as well.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

And it was also Yeah, I want to go to Kyoto, dude.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Kyoto ripped. Kyoto ripped.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Maybe that's the one. It was Kyoto, because Kyoto's supposed to be like absolutely because my buddy went out there and it's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

It is gorgeous. Oh, it's absolutely it's absolutely beautiful. That one was the most had the most tourists. Because it's also, I think, the smallest. Um so it wasn't meant to have as many people come.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

That one was the most and I just saw recently there, they have the you know, the the what do you call them? The blossoms that the cherry blossoms. They stopped tourists doing it this year because there was too many of them. And I love that the Japan did that. I'd be like, I wish we did that. Be like, no more at the Statue of Liberty. That's it, we're done. That's it. That's it. You come to New York, we're done. We hit the limit. We I it's all like because they're about the integrity of it all. Yes, yeah. It ruins it. That's what it is. It ruins it. I see that's what it is. That's what I that's what I'm hungry for is the integrity of it all. Because we have shit. Like speaking of integrating. We don't, we don't at all. It's just fucking for profit.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

That never became more clear than me being there. I was like, oh, this is nice. Like you guys keep this cleaners are real. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Can you imagine having free bathrooms in America? They're everywhere. They're everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

And they're like clean, like they're cleaner than the ones in my apartment. I'm like, I'm like, this is. Well, yeah, that's not that hard. But yeah, but I mean, that's not that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

This seriously, there's I mean, you're in competition with a bathroom in the city.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

It's gonna be a bit, let me talk.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Yeah, exactly. But um, dude, have you ever seen um Best Best Days?

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Yeah, the by the janitor. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

That was that I watched, I was like, holy shit. That's beautiful. It is so clean. And that I love that movie. That's beautiful. That's one of the beautiful all right. Well, speaking of movies, we gotta get into it because I'm just tricky. Did you bring back what did you bring back from Japan? Anything?

SPEAKER_02 14:25

These sweet jeans. Um I love you. So simple. I love these jeans. I got these jeans, got my mom some Kit Kats. Um, did you? Yeah, she was. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

She was I got You got green tea Kit Kats and shit like that. Yeah, matcha green Kit Kats.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

I had matcha for the first time over there.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Matcha, really good matcha is uh out of this world. I I didn't care for it. You didn't care? Okay, it's very early. It just changed it like I was like, this kind of tastes like grass.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Yeah, I was like, uh, you know, yeah, fat grass in America.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

But if you had a good one, it's could be it could be woodsy, woody and all that shit like that. So see, we have different uh profile fucking flavors too. But we we like the same movies. We do. Look at that. We like look at this turnaround. All right, Max Fine. You um threw me for a loop when you picked this film. Yeah, I get that surprised. I would not when Levi told me the film, I was like, you didn't hear that right. And I'm like, Did you ask the right person? Like, is this Max Fine? And he said, Yes, this is Max Fine. So, because these are this is one of my top ten films, I think. Like, it's uh it's up there for me. That's amazing. Yeah, so that really makes my dead that this man picked was Killing Them Softly.

unknown 15:24

Right?

SPEAKER_01 15:25

I said it right, right? Killing them softly. I'm a little brain dead today. Well, I I smoked a lot of weed last night. Killing them softly by uh Dominic, um, Andrew Dominic.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

And uh you just saw for like what made you pick this film?

SPEAKER_02 15:37

I saw it yesterday. Uh because because my roommate David, David Marco, sweeps. Yeah, sweet. He's probably gonna be mad that I just stole this one. But he told uh he told me he was like, Killing them soft. He was like, Have you seen it before? I was like, no, and he's like, it rips. And he was like, you gotta watch it. And then you and then Levi literally hit me up like a couple hours later, being like, You want to watch the movie? I was like, I gotta see Killin' Them Software. And I was like, let's do it. Max, you're so funny.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

You know what, Max? You are poo bear. Like you are you are Winnie the Pooh. That's what you are. You're like, Oh, I got honey. You know what I mean? Like, you're just you're totally like you, you're you go with the flow. God bless you, dude. I need I need more of you in me. I need that. You don't have to go inside me. I'm just saying I just need well, you can if you want. So I can you just I love your way because that is a beautiful like that is beautiful. So this is the first time you saw it was yesterday. Yes. So Dave, God bless, fake the told you to watch this movie, and you're like, I'm gonna just do this one and we're gonna wing it. And what'd you think?

SPEAKER_02 16:36

I really enjoyed it. I first, I mean, I really first of all, I cannot cannot state how much I appreciated it when I look at 96 minute runtime. Like that rich.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

It's so nice. I was like, thank you. I was like, oh yeah, I can go watch it. I mean, no love story, no bullshit. I this is why I also love this film. It's just like it is what it is. It deals with this life. Sorry, go on. I just go on. I'm getting upset.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

No, but it was this weird thing if it was like efficient. Yeah. But it did have these just interesting, like almost just conversations that they just capture these, like the the two that stick out with me is like, what's it when the I I don't know any of the characters, but the guys are going to go rob the card game.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Yeah, and they're just Steve McNary and fucking what's the other guy's name? I love him. Australian? Yeah, Australian, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

And they're just talking about like, oh, sleeping with a prostitute.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Gobble. And he's so gross, dude. Yeah, he's so he's so nasty, dude. They're just grease balls.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

Yeah, they're just got in the toilet. Just the the just the he's he's literally greased up, like he's sweating.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

So like you can smell the heroin off of him. It's just insane.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

It's all you're like. I guess my mind works so much, like, where is this leading? Where is this going? How's this prostitute gonna come? And it's just like, no, these are what these idiots talked about before they robbed the card game.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Um, I think I don't know, we don't have a producer. Have you seen Get Shorty? No, okay. Yeah, I forgot. You never watch anything anyway. Um, I could have had us watch Avatar first. I know, so it's like, thank God you think I hate Avatar so much, dude. I hate that, dude. When I worked on the Fox lot, there's like a tree, the Avatar tree, and people like, oh my god, I'm like, I'm gonna cut that thing down one day.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

You would have been crying. You know what I've been doing. You know what would have been really funny though? If I said Avatar 2 way of the water, like not even the first, like you gotta watch.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

I heard the last one was so bad. Like, even Trent, who loves every single film and is very kind, yes, walked out. Like that is he walked out of it. Like him and Joe just walked out. They're like laughing, they're like, We're done. We can't even do it anymore. It's yeah, it was so I I can't fuck Avatar.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

But anyway, they're trying to get unobtained.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Cameron, wrap it up, dude. Or bring back total recall. I'll even like I'll expect that. Um I haven't seen it. Is that him or am I wrong? Um Terminator, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

Paul Verhoeven.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Yeah, I missed that. Total recall rocked. Um great movie. Great movie. Um, but uh, so the reason why I was going with this, George V. Higgins is an author. Okay, and he's from I think Massachusetts. He was a lawyer. He wrote all these books that were like these like criminal underground shit.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

So they're all these like like the the economy of that world, it they're all like the peasants of them all. Like they're just all foot soldiers, small time, small time crooks, but all of them, like have you ever seen the movie Cole? It's one of my favorite films. It's probably a top 10. Friends of Eddie Coyle. Like, I grew up with that, of course. And nor did fucking Levi. Friends of Eddie Coyle is one of the fantastic films. It was with Robert Mitchum. It's fantastic. He's uh about to do time. Anyway, but um, same author. So the dialogue is why it's so good because it's just straight up, it's an e like these books are such easy reads, but they're so intriguing just because that's why they had those Boston accents. Sure. Because they're initially the director. What are you gonna say, bud?

SPEAKER_03 20:07

I was gonna ask where is this movie? They're in New Orleans. That's in New Orleans filmed in New Orleans. Yeah, it's supposed to be supposed to be set in Massachusetts, but they never really say it's not Massachusetts. They say in the thing, it's supposed to be set in Massachusetts, but they never say where it is.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

I didn't see that. I thought the purpose of the film they did it in New Orleans on purpose, because what I read was because they wanted they wanted to deal with post Hurricane Katrina, because their economy, their economy got ripped up to shreds. So they wanted that that that tie-in on that. So that's I didn't read it that they try to make it mass. I read it as like they were in New Orleans, because even they bring up, I think when they're listening to the radio, there's stuff about talking about that. Because there's also dealing with this is why I was intrigued by because it's a very political film. Sure. So I was like, I never knew Max Ryan, because that's why I like I love the fact that it's not in your face, it's just the underlying theme. Every time the radio's on, they're talking about because this is when the housing market collapsed.

SPEAKER_04 21:03

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

So the the economy of the card game is collapsing as well as the national and the way the business of everything's working. It's so corporatized, which is where we're at now. Sure. So, like, even when Brad Pitt's like, all right, we're gonna have to kill him, they're like, I gotta go talk to the guys. It's like, what do you mean you gotta talk to them? What are you talking about? They're all mobsters. What are we doing? Like, I gotta go to the board, they have to talk about it and figure it out they don't like to and there isn't a guy at the top, they're running by a committee.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Run by a committee, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Yeah, exactly. So it's just like a totally different world where there's like, what are you talking about? We gotta hit this guy. Are you out of your mind? Yeah, and they're all like, no, they don't want you to hit it. They like they like him. They're like, What do you mean you like him? They fucking ripped off a cart game. Like, what are you talking about, dude? And it's so crazy. And then they bring in James Gandelfini, God bless his soul.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Who is uh psychologically fucked going through some midlife crisis. Sure, sure, sure. He can't get him under wraps. It's like it's so funny on each level. Like Brad Pitt's like dealing with so many things. Right. Also the soundtrack rip too. Like that whole fucking yeah. And the anxiety of that whole thing, the scene when they're doing heroin and freaking the numbnuts gives him away. He's all like, No, when I was in the ride with what was his face? Was it Dennis? I think so. Yeah. He's like, you know his friends, he's good friends with Daryl.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

And he claps, he's like, whatever, man. They're all doped up out of his mind. And he's like, and then the next shot is like a shitty soap opera song. Sure. And he's like crying at the steering wheel. Like you can feel the anxiety. It's so fucking paced so well, dude.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Well, that whole um what was he? That's the first time I've ever seen James Gandolfini in something outside of the Sopranos. Oh, really? I've never seen him in anything else.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah, I'm trying to think what else is he like Ben and But that's interesting because yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

It was and I saw, and also that was so that was the other thing I was gonna say. Is there was that scene with them like just talking about sex with the hookers and that whole James Gandalfini arc is kind of pointless in like the plot of like he the character ends up doing nothing. Well, yeah, but it's kind of funny to just show I think there's the movie shows not one person lives a glamorous none of this was working out for any wife. No, everyone's life is pretty horrible. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

And I thought that was kind of yeah, which is so of that time and um like it for me it still holds up because it's so it's the I remember being young when this movie came out, and when I mean I was 25, I forget when the fucking housing collapsed like I was in my twenties, sure, and the housing market collapsed. So, you know, my little generation got fucked because it just cut like completely, and then Obama, you know, got them out of it and all that stuff. So, but it's so of its time because of the whole board activity, the freaking um, like everyone's just kind of I don't know, I want to say whiners, but just kind of like lost. Yeah, everyone's just lost. Kind of losers, all losers, they're all losers, and they're just there's no like the only one who's like all right was um uh Sam Shepherd, who plays uh Dally, whatever his name is. Dal, whatever the fuck the guy that's the head guy.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Yeah, well he's the he's their hit and the main hit.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

He's the main hit man that they use, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

And then he ends up and then he's sick, yeah. And so they get bred.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

I remember because he's barely in the movie.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah, well, he's in the beginning. That fucking shot's fantastic. When they go after Ray Liotta, they get that's he's like, what's Ray Lioda's name again? I forget what his name is.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Mikey.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Mikey. Hey Mikey! And then he's like, Marky, Marky! He's like, that's Sam Shepard, who's a playwright. He's very good. He's like, Marky, and then the big oaf guy, they go into the thing, they throw him in the freaking thing, and then they that's why they're all modulars. That's why it's it's post-Hurricane Katrina, they're all in modulars because everything was underwater.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Yeah, well, that hit home because I was looking at that, I was like, this is this big guy that's like a mob guy. I was like, is home shit.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Yeah, like you're just fucked. They're all like the whole economy, the whole system is upside down. Yeah, yeah. The whole system's upside down. You got these fucking two-way, yeah, squirrel, exactly. And then you have these fucking what's his face, the Australian guy that's like, I'm gonna sell dogs. Yeah, and that's like that's gonna be easy money. Yeah, it's gonna be easy money. And then it's like they set the car on fire, it backfires and hits the dude. It's just like it's they're just a bunch of goons, but on every level, it's just the only one who's has their shit together is Brad Pitt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the only one. And it's so funny because you're like, at you're like kind of like I you kind of are with Brad Pitt. You're like, this is all a mess. Like, what a bunch of schmucks.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Well, the the scene that really hit me that kind of showed how like how stupid you when they're having when he's having coffee with that henchman, yeah. And he puts a dollar down to pay for the coffee. Yeah, and he goes, takes the money. And then he's like, put the dollar, what are we doing? What are we doing? Put the dollar back.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

You know we're about to go murder. You know what they are? They're a bunch of skells. Yeah, that's what these people are. They're a bunch of skells. And it's so funny because it's like, you know what it reminds me of? Like, it reminds me of what my brother like hung out with. Like those are the kind of yeah, they would like like they uh it they're just scumbags, they're just lower level, they would do petty theft shit, you know, like wear like president masks and beat the shit out of a kid for their pizza bag, like stupid shit like that. Where it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 26:18

You know, yeah, it's stupid. Well, whenever there's a risk to reward, yeah and the reward is just ass. Right. You're like, but the risk is real. You're like, what are you doing, what are you doing? Right. What are you?

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Um and then I I worked on a show called Chicago PD, and the sound guy worked on this film.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

And um, he said it was it was awesome, but it was brutal just because those those are all rain machines that they used.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Oh, okay, sure.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

So it's just like I don't know if you've ever been on a rain machine, dude. Those things are just like because we did it on it, it's it's relentless. It's like you're fucking in a tsunami at all times. Like the scene when they're beating the shit out of Ray Lioda. That's insane. Dude, that was that even the car crash is insane too. That's awesome. Oh, you just keep getting that slow-mo where they're all like, that was really sick, dude. Yeah, when they're beating the shit out of Marky. How does it work? Who are we? God bless Ray Leota, another film with Ray Le Ota, one of the most underestimated. He better get a lifetime achievement award. I fucking love Ray Leota.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Well, that was the scene that stuck out to me the most of the whole movie. That beat up scene really because that felt like that really felt like they were beating up an old man. Yeah, like it did not, it wasn't like romantic or dry. Like he was just like I know.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

And it's so funny too, because it's like it's part of business. It's like, Mikey, don't I don't want to come back here, man. Like, just tell us, dude. And it's like this time I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

And also Brad Pitt being like, Why do why are we doing it? Why don't we just kill him? Like, it's just what are you know? Why are you putting them in put the bastard out of his misery? Like this weird code.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Just kill him. Why are we gonna put him in the hospital and put him all this in this bullshit? Yeah, yeah. Does it it doesn't make sense at all? Dude, it's so funny because that it only got worse. This whole world, like now you have fucking um ESPN doing gambling. It's just like the whole corporatized of everything. That's that it started with the mafia and now it's all over here. It's insane, dude. Insane. And that's why I loved it, and Levi told me I I fucking fuck the critics. They have no clue what's good at all. They hated it because they went after Obama.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Well, so that was what was so interesting. Is that's why David, because I was like, What is this movie? And I was like, How is there a movie that like everyone says is great, starring Brad Pitt? Right. That and I was like, and I you haven't even heard of it, and I guess it was the plug, like people didn't like the talk. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

That's what I didn't I because I saw it and I was obsessed with it, and I never give a shit what people.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

A lot of critics they were saying the allegory was too blatant. They were saying that, and they would have preferred to not have the videos of Obama or the videos of George Bush and all you know the John McCain stuff. But I think it's perfectly fine. I think it was just a sensitive time. It's 2012 when this came out. Obama was getting re-elected. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

And it was very look where we're at, you dumb fucking old bad Democrat faggots. Anyway, I can't stand those people. They're so foolish. Yeah, I do. I'm so over these fucking people. They're the reason why we're here. So I can't stand those Hillary Democrats that are like, no, no, no. It's like, shut up. Yeah, I don't, they're stupid. Because that's why I like the big Lebowski. Remember the opening sequence is like in the background, they have uh, you know, George Bush because we went into uh Iraq. Yeah, and it was like scene. That's like he went to get milk, and in the background it's uh George Bush and he's like talking about I forget what he says exactly, and he's got he's writing a check for a dollar to buy the milk so he can make white Russians.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

That movie's all time.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

That movie's all time. But that's I kind of like that. I like the fact that they're in the car and you hear the radio and they turn it off. It's like I think it's I think it was smart, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_03 29:55

And the fact that the guy at that time, everyone was on edge. Like I remember my fucking parents are freaking out, they're not trying to say anything, right? But they're freaking out. I'm freaking out during that time because gas was what it is now, fucking $4 a gallon. Right, right, right. Super crit. It was just it was an awful lot. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Everyone was yeah, see, everyone got affected. I just couldn't find work. It was bad, dude. It was just sweet bad. And then yeah, it was insane. So um, yeah, but instead of handling it and being like taking accountability, they're all like, no, don't say anything about Obama. Like, it's so stupid because that film was just such an I it was an allegory of its time, and it still holds well.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

And I'll tell you this, I needed the reference point. That would have gone over the head if they had those stuff. I was like, I think this is about it.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Right, it's a small crime movie, and that's the thing, too. It's like it wasn't making fun of Obama in any way. That is what bothers me. He's just making fun of like like the last the fucking last scene, that's when I come. Like the last scene of that film is just when he goes in and he comes out, he's like, Where's my money? And then Obama's like, out of one, we're all many, or whatever. And he goes, You see that? That's what you need. Little help. That guy is a great actor, too. I love him, and I can't remember his name. Yeah, he's fantastic. He's always that way. He's always a good, yeah. He's always just like a guy. He is, but he's so good. Like in stepbrothers, even when he plays with one dad, he's fantastic in it because he plays it serious, and he's so good, dude. He's so funny. So good. So when he gives the money, he's like, he's like, that's what you need. He goes, Don't make me laugh. He goes, Oh, you're so cynical. And he's all like, you know, America's not what does he say? America's not a democracy. It's not a country. It's just a business. Now fucking pay me. And I'm like, yeah, that it's totally what it is. So I don't know why everyone's like, nah, I didn't even know that they did that. It was about it's about America LLC. That's all it is, which is right. I mean, that's what we are. We're run by corporations. So this is that's why I find it funny that you picked this film because you're like you're like Brigazi. You don't fucking bring that shit up. You're like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 31:58

But I yeah, but I love Brad Pitt. That poster kicks ass too. Oh, that poster with a shotgun. So for a shotgun? I want I want to get it. And I'll tell you this if I didn't look like a fool, I would wear my hair like Brad's every day in that movie. Why not? You should do it. Oh, I mean I'd be that'd be can you imagine? Just and I don't say anything. That'd be fantastic. I just show up for checks and just Yeah, there's not a thing I don't want to do. Yeah, new jeans.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

There's no and they also don't try to squeeze in any love story bullshit. It's not like Brad Pitt as a chick when she's like, Where are you going, Brad?

SPEAKER_04 32:28

That would have been that would have been awful, dude.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

No, I like movies like that. I like movies like that's why I like movies when it's just about this world, and that's what we're gonna talk about. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 32:37

Well, that's the other shitty thing. So this movie is one out of 22, apparently, that has an F cinema score. And cinema score is kind of like it's uh when a movie's released, random theaters and stuff, the the audience gets to rate it.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Oh, yeah, we did that for yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

And so this one has an F, which is fucking crazy. So crazy. But to me, if this movie was set in Australia or if it was a British crime movie, people would love this fucking movie.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

I don't I don't care what they think. They're all stupid. They're fucking like. They're dumb. There's only two. That's why they're dumb.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

They must be the worst movies of all the time. I'm curious, like it's just called Titanic.

SPEAKER_02 33:21

It's just like all these great movies. Another James Cameron fucking flop that made a million gazillion dollars. I do.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

I love D Max. I really do. God, I really want to cut down that tree. I see the passive two people stand there like, look at it, magic. Yeah, here's magic. You know, we all like George Washington, don't we? Cherry tree. Here you go, baby. Bye-bye, Avatar Tree. Uh, but that's part of it. Yeah, the symbol of what's life is going on.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Is it Yahweh?

SPEAKER_03 33:51

I I have nothing. What's Yahweh?

SPEAKER_01 33:53

What's that one of the characters? No, I think that's their god.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

I think that's their god away.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

You know, leave it to James Cameron to take some fucking American Indian native culture fucking allegory and just jizz over it with CGI and bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

Fucking lose. Can you imagine acting in that thing? You have to wear these like with satellites on there. I'd be so pissed. I'd you put me in it. I'd be just, I would love for them to make a character. With dots on you. I'd be standing. I'm like, this is stupid. Like my character's like, what are we doing, dude?

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Get the rain machine over here.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Oh my god, dude. So lame, dude. I could do Dune. I could fuck Dude. Dune would be the shit.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

I've watched Dune so many times. Dude, I watched Dune. I love Dune.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

I fuck with Dune. The third one, I am going to the movie theater and I am good at watching over and over again. I am going. I adore Dune. And this is when Timothy Shalom and Ding Dong is gonna be a dick, right?

SPEAKER_03 34:46

Is he gonna be a dick?

SPEAKER_01 34:48

This is the one where he's gonna commit genocide, right?

SPEAKER_03 34:52

Love evil. He learns at the end.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Oh, he does learn at the end? I only read Oh, I'm sorry I killed all those Palestinians. Kind of learn? Kind of. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Wait, is this good? I read the first book. Is this part of the first? Or is this the second book?

SPEAKER_03 35:04

So this is Dune Messiah, the second book, which uh uh Frank Herbert wrote because nobody caught that Paul Atreides is a bad guy in the first book. Oh, really? So he was like, let me just write a second book to clarify this. Kind of, yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, she's the one that's like fucking kill them all.

SPEAKER_01 35:23

Right, right, isn't she?

SPEAKER_03 35:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

Like she's like she's ahead of this like religious thing, right?

SPEAKER_03 35:28

She's she's all kind of a splinter from it because they all want to have like this messiah character, but they want to control him. And she's like, no, I'm just gonna have he's just gonna be with me and not be part of the group.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

So this is so she's Latina.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

She's the Latina, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

YouTube's just on the blocking or the slipper.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

20 minutes later.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Seriously, dude. I told you to drink the water. Drink the juice.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

The water alive.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

You feel viva la giving enough.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

I mean, that would be the greatest movie. Like just like with the $500 million.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

It's doom, but they're saying doing. What you don't. Watch your don't.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Oh my god, that's so fucking funny. Papa.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Oh, that's great, dude. I love Batman. Oh, that's good. But yeah, dude, and I've been watching the Batman all the time. Batman series. All the Batmans I've been watching. All the Batman.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

Same cinematographer. Wait, wait, like the dark Greg Frazier. It's a man. I didn't know you knew it like that. Rips. He just did Project Hail Mary. Good movie. Dude, I heard that.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Dude, I'm hearing great reviews. And I had free tickets to go to it too, but I couldn't do it because it's a parrot, it's a Peacock film. It's a freaking NBC Universal film. And um, I'm pissed that I have to I have to go see it. Like I heard like everyone's saying it's really good. And I don't want to like it, but I do love the fact I don't know how it came on my feed, maybe because it's NBC. Ryan Gosling had to do like some bullshit like behind the scenes thing for this. Oh, and he is dialed it in, dude. He's like, this is so stupid. And I love that he did that. I was like, hey guys, hey guys, this is Project Homan. All right, man, where we do this. Did my contract, so here we are. And I'm like, I love Ryan for doing that. I'm like, yeah, Ryan, I fuck with you, Ryan. I fuck with that guy. I mean, Ryan Gosseling, you are the man. Ryan Gosling, we are Ryan Gosling, Ray Leota, Brad Pitt people.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

That's what this pot is, okay? I'm gonna we're gonna get I'm gonna get bobbleheads of these motherfuckers and we're gonna idolize them. That's gonna be our little idolization area. Do you think Gosseling can be? Brad Pitt come on the show. And Ryan Gosling can come on the show. Ray Leota, if he was still alive, he can come on the show. But yeah, um, I've had Timothy Chameley, but I just bust his balls the entire time. You know, he'd probably be a good hang, though. He probably wouldn't. I don't think he's just like, whatever. I mean, I he can't bring his girlfriend though. Really? Yeah, I can't. You can hang out with her. I don't want to, I don't want to, yeah. Do you really like we gotta go in the other room at time? Yeah, you go, yeah, you go with Kylie. We keep Timothy here. Yeah, I don't want to talk to that. What am I gonna talk to him about?

SPEAKER_02 38:31

Kylie and I are just in the other room watching Avatar.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

I know seriously, you're like, this is when the Malala, whatever the fuck was it?

SPEAKER_02 38:39

This was a big deal for Sam Worthington when he got this part. You know, this was supposed to be Matt Damon. Yeah, but he passed.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

Was it really another man I love? Yeah, he felt like that. Good for Matt Damon, didn't do it. I love Matt Damon. I adore Matt Damon.

SPEAKER_03 38:53

I don't know what he was doing at that. The Bourne movies were over.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

Matt Damon? Oh no, I'm thinking of Matt Dillon. Jesus Christ, Matt Damon. Matt Dillon. I love Matt Dillon. Matt Damon spread. So can you imagine Matt Dillon? That'd be funny.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

He stinks.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Who?

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Sam Worthington. Is that his name? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Yeah, is he from is that Jurassic Park?

SPEAKER_03 39:14

No, that's that's the that's the main guy in Avatar.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

Wait, who's Sam Worthington?

SPEAKER_02 39:17

He's the main guy in Avatar.

SPEAKER_03 39:18

He's the main He's an Australian guy, and he's only good in Australia movies because he can't do any other accent.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Yeah, okay. I yeah, like I say, I didn't watch Avatar. I I like I don't. And you know what Sue I'm annoyed too?

SPEAKER_03 39:30

Max loves Jake Sully.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Yeah, how could you big ideas? Why do you even like Avatar? The fact that you like first of all.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Well, I actually I can't explain it. Okay. I can't explain it. It was the first, because it was made, it was literally, it was made for me. I think it came out when I was 10. Yeah, this is your star. No, it was. And it was also the first movie that I saw, like like when you're 10? No, but it was like it was the first movie that I first of all when I saw the ads on TV, I was like, this. Okay, and I saw the Midnight Show with my cousins. And also, at the time, like it not, that was the that thing looked insane. Like it looked, it was just the coolest thing. And then also they're going after a medal named Unobtained. Like at 10, I understood. I was like, I get this movie. And that's I was like, that's really good. Oh, okay. I get it, buddy. And I get it. Also, it's the only movie I've seen everyone come out opening weekend, like my in my entire life of a series. Like, I saw the and don't get me wrong, they're like, I understand they are bad movies, but but it won't it won it over for me. I was like the first one was the most fun I've ever had in a movie theater in my life.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Oh, okay. I appreciate that. I just can't stand these people that are like they get hooked on, like Harry Potter, they're doing a whole series on that. I'm like, bro. Again, right? Like a new cat, yeah, just a whole new thing. Like, I guess it's they're doing a darker version, and it's like, what are we doing, dude? Like, first off, I thought she got canceled, so I don't know why everyone's still making her money, you know.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Oh, it doesn't matter. But it doesn't matter. That's why people are so full of shit.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

It's yeah, it's too insane. And people are sick, dude. This occultism of shit, like people that like BTS and all it's like a Korean band that was in town and they're fucking out of their mind. Those fan bases, they make Taylor Swift fan bases look mentally fucking stable. They are out of their mind. And like Harry Potter, the there's probably Avatar people, probably, right? Is there Avatar, but not as bad?

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Not as much. When it first came out, there was people like crazy into it, and they got I think one maybe one person, it was a news story, like killed themselves because they couldn't live in the avatar world.

SPEAKER_01 41:34

Okay, well then by good. Now they could go live in Pandora. Yeah, yeah. Dude, one time. I hope they wore a Pandora bracelet in their casket, you fucking nerd. Like, really, dude, that's mental sickness. That's a mental illness with another level.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

Yeah, there's no way they entered it before that movie just doing all that.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

It's like, can you imagine if they try to sue James Cameron for that? I'd be like, you are a tool. Like you're just this is a grifting money grab. But like Dune, too. I feel like Dunes shook off their nerds. Like the new Dunes.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

The new Dunes.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

Well, yeah, it's not as you know how Star Wars those people are still sure. Oh, I guess so. You're right.

SPEAKER_03 42:11

Because Star Wars people are still like, well, I would have done Star Wars uh fans now are super cynical. Oh, are they? Just because the last you know, three Star Wars movies were absolute doll shit.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

Dune might be the only one one after the other that is just like this is getting better and better.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

Well, yeah. Did you see Dune? Do you prefer the first or the second? Second. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

Love Dune 2. I adore Dune 2. Dune 2's sound editor is absolutely the like I watched it the other. I was so pissed because I was supposed to go to it twice, but I was hung over and I never made it.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

So I watched it home and thank God I got the sound bar now. And it was I I was literally like a black woman. I was like, no way, holy shit. I was just like yelling at the television, dude.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

He's riding a worm. Oh shit, man. Shit. No way. Look at this cat. Mr. Timothy. Timothy. Don't be drinking that water. Don't be drinking that water.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

Just translate.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

What is going on, dude?

SPEAKER_02 43:17

He's like, oh yeah, that's a good one. Should have known. Shoulda known. All right. I only saw one time.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Oh, yeah. I put that on. When I work, I put that on in the background and all the Batmans. I watched one and two Tim Burton Batmans yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 43:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

Okay, because the one and two is fan. After two, you don't watch the Val Kilmer. We're getting out of our mind here.

SPEAKER_04 43:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

George Clooney, shut up. You got Robin involved. Fuck off, dude. Like for real, man. And the Christian Bale's love. Christian Bale. You're always welcome on the pod, too.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

I love Christian Bale and all those ones. I like, and I like the Rob like this. Is the only time I've actually started liking Robert Pattison. I'm like, oh now. I get I like Robert. I like him.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

Love Robert Robert Patterson. In Dune 3. Is he really? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

He's in what?

SPEAKER_03 44:07

He's in Dune 3. He's the villain. He's a villain.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

He's fantastic. I love him. Because I feel like he could have gone down the Timothy Shalabama ding-dong route and he didn't. Sure. Because of the whole Twilight shit. And he got out of it, which I'm happy for, man.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

Yeah. He went small.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

He did go small. He did like really artsy films and all that shit.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

You know what's a um what first of all? I've only seen the the Nolan Batman. And I saw the Rob Panson one. I haven't seen the older ones.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

You gotta see the original too.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

You know what series I went through and saw for the first time. Like I've been really fired. I saw the Hunger Games. Have you watched the Hunger Games? Jesus Christ. Dude, come on. Yeah, dude. I literally, I swear, and I don't not even for the at my own TV, I went.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

The fact that you like the killing them, like why do you like killing them softly? Like, what do you like about it?

SPEAKER_02 44:53

Uh I th I thought it was sick. What did you think it was sick, though? I thought it was kind of how how to best articulate. I I kind of like it just felt real, I guess. It felt it I like how this world didn't feel like these it wasn't it wasn't one of those movies, it didn't feel like a movie I've seen a bunch. There wasn't like this one head hon show, and they're like, we got this job to do. It was just watching like kind of this a week unfollow in this world. And there wasn't even like a main character, like rah or excuse me, Brad Pitt was like the main character. Right, right, right. But it was it was just kind of a scenes in their life. And it kind of fought, like, you know, Brad Pitt's not in it for like 30 minutes, and like this whole thing of like I just I literally I can't remember a robbery scene where I was that anxious. Yeah, like I was sitting there where they're like they have that like the shotgun that's like like tiny snub nose.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Like, what is this? I know they're wearing the mask on the top of their heads, like so. They look so ridiculous, dude.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

That map and like just like and then they cut to that one guy towards the end who's like grabbing his pot, and you're like, Oh, he's gonna sh pull out the gun, he's gonna blast because that's how these working moves. Right, right, right, right. And then they just get away. Yep. Right.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

And they just I know, and that that that that handheld, well, I guess it was a um, what do you call it? Steady cam when they're walk going down the this narrow hallway into the thing. And again, you hear the radio, the news on in the background, and it's like they go in, and then it's like and it's tense as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

No, it's it's I was so I was literally like I was so and then just like them calling in um James Gandalfini's characters, he's like this big head man, and like and again in another movie, it's this badass guy that's like oh that dude's a bum that's really just yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

I love that you pointed that out. But that's George V. Higgins on all of his characters. Like, you should see Friends of Eddie Coyle, it's the same kind of vibe. It's just I think Get Shorty was um George V. Higgins, too, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

But he wrote a slew of these kind of uh books where it's all these just two-time crooks that are just losers, just this whole thing about his wife, and he's like he's just like you know, talk how she's talking about leaving him. He's like, just give me this one, but he's like, You're right, I'm gonna do this all again. And he's right. I don't know. I thought I thought it was very like right. I've seen that movie the same way 20 times. Right. This was the first time I had seen it that way, right?

SPEAKER_01 47:18

I like that. I love that, dude.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

Yeah, because they think the machine, it's not slick, no, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

They're just a bunch of losers, dude. Yeah, and that heroin addict was fucking so gross. So gross.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

And that scene with him and just the car and all the dog shit. It's like it's like two seconds and you're like, they are doing that. Yeah, and this idiots, and then them like being like again, like, and that scene where they blow up the car, right? Right. And or and then he's like, You gotta, you, you gotta put a stick in it, mate. And he's like, I know what I'm doing. Right. And you're expect and you're watching it for like 10 seconds. You're like, oh, there it's this is to show that the Australians are right, right, and the car is not gonna, and then it just blows up in his own.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

Yeah, it goes backwards and he laughs. I know everywhere that cutaway was fantastic. That's like a family guy cutaway. That's hysterical.

SPEAKER_02 48:03

Everywhere I thought it was going, it did not go.

SPEAKER_01 48:06

And I loved how Andrew and Dominic directed it. I think he did a fantastic like it's better than the Marilyn Monroe movie he did. That was dog shit.

SPEAKER_03 48:12

What was that? I'm so surprised he did that.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

Yeah, it's it's he did a Marilyn Monroe movie that was supposed to be like X-rated because it showed like the real life part of it, and it's it was just it was horrible.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

It's got some good scenes in it.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

It's yeah, it's still, I don't know. Uh, the in-law of Josie Wales is one of his first films, and that was a really good film with Casey Affleck, and that soundtrack is very good. Um, so I recommend that one too. But I I love I want him, I hope he does good shit because those two films are great. And this one, I this is a masterpiece to me.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

I have a question for you guys. Uh, how you feel about this? Because this is the only thing that kind of threw me off from the entire I don't know how you feel about when movies do this, but when it's Brad Pitt, he's talking to what was it, Richard Jenkins Jenkins, and they're in the car, and then he's talking about like how he why he wants to get the other guy to kill him because he knows this guy and he doesn't want to eat it.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

It's personal, they cry.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Yeah, he's like, I want to kill him from a distance. Right. I want to kill them softly.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

How do you feel when the movie says the title? That to me is like kind of a restaurant putting pictures of the food on the menu.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

I'm like, ah, you let's just that's that's what the Asians do. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

I don't care for that not the Asians, but I don't like that. I don't like I don't I don't like I don't like in comedy when flyers have pictures of the comics just in the I don't I think it I don't like when a movie says the title Well I gotta say I didn't even pick that up.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

So I think it's so smooth that it doesn't bother me at all. Because he doesn't say killing them soft. No, no, that's true. Killing them. He's just like, you know, he's like you gotta kill them softly. You know what I mean? He does it like very conversational, and it's like, and that's the whole film. So I think it just it encapsulated the film.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

That was the only thing that took me out.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Oh, really? No, I didn't even notice it. I didn't even know he said that. I didn't even pick that up. Did you?

SPEAKER_03 49:53

No, I I I've the second time watching it, I've recognized it. I'm fine with it, it doesn't bother me. Yeah, uh yeah. I can't think of another movie where they do that where I'm like, ugh.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Yeah, no, yeah, right. It didn't, it didn't pick up. Yeah, he was a good fella. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that too.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

Remember his ass as well.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Dude, I swear to God, I like a horror masterpiece.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Yeah, I know. Like, I am I am a biased bitch though, because mobster movies are my thing, and on every level, I love them. Like, get shorty, I didn't really that that was too fucking polished and too poppy and whatever. It's funny. I mean, I like the freaking my old my favorite is the Dennis Farina character that he's oh my god, that's that's RIP. RIP too. We would have had to love you on the pod too, sir. Um but um yeah, this move, this movie, uh I adore this film, and fuck the critics because they're stupid, and uh, I hate how myopic these people are because it was a fabulous film, it was of its time, and it still holds up to this day. So I appreciate you picking this movie. I still can't believe, but I love the way you like it. That makes me appreciate it more because I never think about that because it is like they they look like like you could you know those guys exist. Like those are good that exist. It's not it's not all fucking um what's Italian job, you know, like all right, we gotta get the crew together. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. It's new, it's two schmucks that are gonna get a snub-nosed gun, a shot off sock gun down to the freaking thing with pantyhose over their faces.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

No, they're losers.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

They're losers, they're not that smart. They're not smart people, they're not smart. There's no sexy.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Yeah, Brad Pitt's only kind of not a you know, like it's like, and the guy, the the big boss that he's always talking to, Richard J, he's probably going home to like a two-bedroom house with his wife and he's like driving like an economy call like none of this.

SPEAKER_01 51:48

Right, they're just a bunch of schmoes. Just a bunch of schmoes. So adore this film. Uh thank you very much for coming on the pod. Do you have anything to fucking, you know? I mean, just just thank you.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Watch Avatar.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

No, so I did, dude. What's your Instagram?

SPEAKER_02 52:07

Oh, Instagram find the profit, F-I-N.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Find the profit, dude. And you have your pod.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Oh, sandwich Tuesday.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Yeah, what's the matter with Sandwich Tuesday? I was on it. It was a lot of fun. I want to go back on it. Please. Um not you though.

unknown 52:18

Yeah, not yay!

SPEAKER_03 52:21

You don't do dairy-free sandwiches.

SPEAKER_04 52:22

Come on, now it's not worth having.

SPEAKER_03 52:31

No, we'll have come on.

SPEAKER_01 52:33

I'm like, I'm good. You're good. Watch your special. No, it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 52:37

Yeah, do that. Go for it. All right, but after stinks. No.

unknown 52:42

Oh my god.